LPT Don't be afraid to look for a new job. If you are unsatisfied with your career it's time to move on.

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Gorssky :
I remember reading somewhere someone mentioned that you should "Always be looking for other job opportunities, even if you're happy in your job." Not because you're planning on leaving, but just so you know what's out there and can be prepared in case something were to happen. You never know when a pandemic might strike or the company you like that you currently work for suddenly goes under or has to let people go or who knows what else. It's just good to be prepared.
Great point. Best time to look for a job is while you already have one. Even if not wanting to move on, it helps build your interview skills and might even show how undervalued you are at your current spot. Lastly being actively employed and not desperately needing a new job makes it such a stress-free experieince when interviewing.
ObserveTheGreyArea :
My workplace pulled the old "Bait 'n' Switch" on me, so I'm looking for another job now. Another tip, unless your current workplace is toxic to your mental health, stay there until you have another job offer in writing.
Absolutely the best time to look for a job is while you have one. Less pressure in interviews means you’re less nervous. Interviews get easier the more you do.
BabyBringMeToast :
You mean some people don’t angrily write job applications whenever they have a bad day? How will you keep your CV up to date?
This is how I got my most recent job, which I start next month.
STAlexFree :
Stayed at a shitty job that underpaid me for 3 years. 6 months ago I got back from a vacation and just couldn’t do it anymore. Put in my 2 weeks and immediately found a job paying 30k more that’s way more chill and relaxed.
Congrats man!! I've been at the same underpaying job for 7 years, though my experience should easily get me twice what I make. Crushing anxiety has kept me where I'm at, hoping to find something better paying that is also compatible with my grocery list of disabilities. Glad you got out, it's inspiring!!
SmolWarlock :
I recently walked out of a job that lied about how much they were paying me, didn't find out until the first paycheck. Worked me the hours they told me I wouldn't work. Scheduled me doubles even though I constantly told them not to. Threw me on a 3 person line by myself everyday, with my own prep before I could leave. Tried to guilt me into working after requesting off my wife's baby shower after they scheduled me anyway. I didn't work for like two week. And took a little vacation. Now I'm in my first fine dinning restaurant getting payed almost 20% more. Only open 4 hours for 4 days a week and the rest is time to put effort into your prep and really enjoy cooking.
I was approached with a very enticing job offer to open and run a restaurant for some amateurs with deep pockets. From the very beginning they change me from GM to cooking, increased my hours to minimum 12 hour days every day and then cut my pay by over $10k/yr. All within 2 weeks. At least it's given me the opportunity to finally say fuck all this and figure out what I want to do with my life. Which I still don't have an answer for.
[deleted] :
You only get one life to live, just do it! I spent 10 years in the corporate world when a good day was when I made lots of money for the CEO. I felt terrible and hated how the job made me feel, but man the pay was good Then one day I had enough and found a lower paying job in an industry that I love and I don't regret it for a second And if you're worried about the money, I found I was spending so much on escapism from my life and I didn't even realize it - trips clothes, video games, anything that could fill the hole Don't think of life as path that's moving up a hill, like we're taught, but instead it's a sandbox where you can build anything you want. It's okay to spend 10 years building a castle with a moat just to knock it down to build something new!
Aeran :
Hey, I literally just learned this! I've been working at this job for six years while it gradually got worse, and finally snapped after being turned down for a raise while doing the work of three people. To add to this, if you're looking to move jobs, now is THE best time to do so. With all of the labor shortages, companies have openings EVERYWHERE. Take the jump, It'll work out. You've got this.
As a recruiter I can confirm that now is certainly the best time to be looking for jobs since the ‘08 crash. Apply directly to company websites for opportunities you’re not directly qualified for and go through recruiters for jobs you are. Recruiters will sell you to their clients and the organizations own recruiting teams are being forced to be more flexible. Everyone is leaving their job post-COVID and it’s creating a chain of events. Person 1 leaves, replaced with person 2 who resigns from company 2, etc etc etc.
MicksElplix :
I needed to read/hear this. I’ve been with the same small family owned business for 29 years. I’ve moved up as far as I can. My immediate boss is the owner of the company. He’s not a terrible person, but he’s a terrible manager. Without going into details he’s a micromanager, and I’m quite tired of it, even though I probably made it worse by accepting and showing it was okay by staying for so long. I don’t have a bachelor degree, but have a ton of experience in my field. I’m sitting here with my mother, who is coming to terms with stepping into the light, and I know she hated the company/boss I work for, because I have complained to her about it. I’m going to make a change, and this post helps. Thanks!
I left my last job because of crazy micromanagement. It was the best thing I've done in a long time. I took a small paycut to do it, but it was sooooo worth it.
1985subaru :
Even if you're working at a job you are satisfied with, keep your resume updated and apply for jobs that seem interesting or exciting to you. Try to get at least 1 or 2 interviews each year. Most importantly it keeps your resume writing and interviewing skills reasonably sharp in case things change at your current job. It's also a great way to do some self evaluation to see if your skills are stagnating or not. As a bonus, you may find that there are jobs out there that would be even better than what you're doing right now.
100% just updating resume and applying for a job you know you won't take is simply good practice. If you work a job for 5 years you will be rusty at the whole process and your resume will be out dated. Keep the resume updated at least once a year and then when you see a really good job posting you will be ready for it!
Special_Rice9539 :
If you feel guilty about leaving a job because it’s already understaffed, just know that they wouldn’t be understaffed if they paid enough.
I needed to hear this. There are 3 people in my team and at 3 months in I had to train the 2 others. I've been there 6 months now and the other two are only just getting up to scratch. I know it's getting better now that we have a stable team, but we really need a 4th person as the role has so many more responsibilities than back in the day when a 3 person team worked. I need to quit as I'm constantly at the point of burnout, but I fear that if I leave now, I'll be putting the other two in my team in the same position as I was in 3 months ago- having to train a new person while already severely understaffed. I think I'm going to take a leap and write my resignation letter as well as a recommendation for serious changes in the role for my boss.
anomyluminati :
Yup. I was in a job that I was not happy in for 2 years. Paid little in relation to how much work I was doing, and it just wasn't worth it. Spent months, on and off, trying to get out. One day it just snapped, and I needed out, fast. I started to throw out job applications after job applications, some horribly quickly written cover letter after another. Got like 2 interviews, but nothing came of them. It was really painful for a few months. Got an interview which I REALLY didn't think I succeeded, but turns out the manager (who was one of the 2 interviewers) really liked my character. Been working in this new job for 2-3 months now, that's higher pay with less responsibilities, and I enjoy it more. Immediately and noticeably, my mental well-being improved and I started to do more things with my time and energy after work.
There is some research to suggest that some of the gender income gap is due to men more often applying for jobs they're not quite qualified for, and sometimes getting them. Obviously hard to parse that out from the outright sexism of people just thinking men are more capable regardless of experience, but it has been suggested at least. So especially women, just apply anyway. Worst case scenario is 30mins of your time wasted.
OperativePiGuy :
Definitely needed to read this. My job is easy, to the point that most of my days are just spent sitting in the office for 8 hours while I'm paid. But that's it. I'm not learning anything, or honing any skill. Even if they hired me full time, it's oddly mentally exhausting to have to sit in an office all day and not have anything to do except browse the internet. Sounds like my dream job from when I was a kid, but I just end up feeling like I'm being left behind and will be unappealing to any other jobs by the time I do leave.
I've done that before. There literally isn't enough to read on the internet. I ended up reading whole books on project Gutenberg. And it is surprising how little anyone really responded to me telling them I had nothing to do. Other people telling me they were rushed off their feet but had nothing to give me. It's hard not to think you're wasting your life, and the inertia creeps into your home life too.
MuscleT :
Research has shown those who change jobs get paid more. Threaten it all the time and do it when necessary.
I like that last line. Never make it look like you depend so much on your job, even if you do. You'll be treated accordingly.
Twist_Material :
I would like to also add, dont make a decision while emotional. Try to be pragmatic as much as possible.

trapNsagan :
Reading my mind. Spent the late hours last night redoing the resume after being with the same company for 10 years. It's time. I need a new environment to master and new challenges to make me feel competent.

Sailass :
>Apply to a job even if you feel underqualified ​ Say this louder for the people in the back! I've seen stupid amounts of complaints on IT Pro forums with comments like "They want 8 years of experience in this, but I only have 3" or "Look at these dummies wanting 10 years experience in RUST, but its only been out for 8 years!" (its longer but you know what I mean). ​ Apply for that shit. What are you going to know with 8 years experience you didn't already figure out with 3 years? Not a whole hell of a lot. Worst they can do is say "No" or ignore you. You lose NOTHING by giving it a try!
There's ads put there that want 8 years of experience in a technology that's only existed for 5.
menoknownow :
Doing this right now, we’ll see how it works out. Going back to school in my 30’s feels really weird.
Best of luck with school!! The benefit of going to school later in life is that you’re much more mature and experienced and responsible and your priorities are probably a lot better now than when you were younger. Your classes will feel so much easier than they would have at 20 You’re doing a great thing and I’m proud of you
fluorescent_noir :
I love my job, but my boss has been driving me insane for the last 3 years. She's barely present, one of those managers who "works from home" more than she's in the office and when she's in the office is only around between the hours of 10-2. She asks more and more of me without any offer of raising my pay. In fact, the company denied giving any of us raises last year "because of COVID." I finally started applying to other places and just turned in my resignation on Wednesday of this week for a similar job, with less volume, that offered me 20% more than I'm making right now. My boss literally asked me "why did they offer you that much?" when I told her how much the offer was for, and then told me she was concerned about the department and office without me, and asked me to stay 3-4 weeks for them to help find a replacement. I politely told her I would stay for 3 weeks as that's what I told the other company that's offered me the job, but I couldn't stay any longer than that. Never stay in a job that doesn't respect you. Capitalism really does undervalue the laborers who actually perform the work, and I fully agree that you should be looking for other opportunities that will pay you more in similar positions every 3-5 years anyway.

GrunkleDan :
(Offer not valid for workers 40-50 years old). Ageism is real. So is sexism, and racism. I'm not saying ageism is worse. But combine any or all of them and difficulty of finding a new job increases exponentially.
Yea, 50-60? Just stick around, I've been tempted to leave a few times, but am worried about exactly that. (Nice username, I'm a Great Uncle too btw)
Fubai97b :
I'd expand this and say you should always be looking for that next job. In a lot of fields the only way to get promoted and a significant raise is to hop companies. At the absolute minimum, keep your CV up to date so you have a good copy on hand. Some jobs really will almost fall in your lap.

LilxPrince :
This so much. Last year, I was stuck at a job that was taking advantage of me. Low pay, limited hours, no benefits, overworked, etc. I was very hesitant to quit since the unemployment rate shot up with COVID. I was too scared that if I quit, I wouldn't be able to find another job for at least half a year, especially with COVID happening. My fiancé convinced me to just do it and I did. A month later I found another job that has amazing benefits, great pay and completely work from home. It's been about a year working here and I've never been happier at a job. To those scared, it'll be okay!
Congrats this sounds amazing. What type of job did you land?
Bewaretheicespiders :
I know I never regretted quitting a job. Be smart thought, keep your old job and keeping doing it well while you look for the next one.
That's what people say but.....sometimes you just can't. Sometimes its FUCK this place, if I stay 1 more day I'm going to cause a really big problem for either me or someone here. I ended up filling the days after I walked out on the spot of my last job, did job interviews and took up side delivery jobs. In the end I was able to take the skills I learned and became very good at, and apply it to my own buisness- now I make about the same that I was with doing 25% the amount of work, and dealing with 0% of the bullshit that last job put me through. Sometimes you just have to say NO MORE.
Dirty-Heathen :
I’m leaving a job in under a year because they’re not allowing 100% remote and were wishy-washy about it last year when I took the job. Even if I took a 10% pay cut for a new job, I would make more in the end because the office is in a HCOL area. Apparently they were tempting a lot of people with 100% remote during the pandemic because we’ve had a 60% attrition rate for employees who have been there less than a year.

Turbulent_Toe_9151 :
Thanks. I needed this today. My job is "great" but I am starting to hate it.
This is where I am. I have a great job, for someone else. It's torture for me.
spartanass :
Alright guys here's my pickle. I just graduated from college (computer science engineering degree), i've got a job as a helpdesk engineer that pays okay for a freshers job. But ive come to realise that coding and developing isnt really my thing, i put myself through 4 years of crap vomiting everything ive learnt byheart onto my exams so i scraped by to graduate. i honestly cant picture myself working as a developer/coding post. What do i do? do i stop being a pussy and just go ahead for CS related jobs? what are other fields/courses i could apply for a job? where do i start from?
What exactly do you do as a help desk engineer? That really isn’t the job I see a computer science major landing, so perhaps you just hate the help desk work and not actually developing? If you do actually dislike coding and cannot see yourself doing it in the future, perhaps you could stay in tech but get a job as a business analyst (someone who works with stakeholders and writes requirements for developers) or as a tester. Both of these are roles that any software engineer could transition to and are heavily needed in any large tech company. Whatever you decide, I hope it works out. You’ve got a degree that is in high demand, don’t let it go to waste. Source: 10+ years in software development
informationfreak123 :
Not so easy as said. I left my job last month due to anxiety and other health issues and guess what, my anxiety has tripled after leaving thanks to Corona and shitty job market. Guys, plan your next move well before leaving your job.
Shitty job market? What field are you in? A lot of what I'm reading is now is the time to look because there are so many openings. It does depend on the field, some are just harder to find work in period. Others, like retail, just operate short handed because quality candidates don't apply. Heck, at my store we've lost 10 people due to finding better, non retail, opportunities.
assassbaby :
so i “topped” out at $60k after 14 years at my last place and the bosses kept me doing the same things but not allowing me to touch other things at the next layer even though i put myself thru a year of schooling at night and a new cert to prove i know the next layer. looked for a new job that focuses on the next layer so after 5 years now i have increased my pay by $40k in a steady climb...so in 5 im almost at what i made in 14 at other place.

tgwill :
Depending on the specific role/industry, you are doing yourself a disservice by remaining in the same place too long. Specifically in tech. Branching out gives so much more experience and opportunities than staying stagnant. It also helps your wallet as most new positions will pay real market rates and not just the typical 3% annual increase that you get if you’re lucky.

Superbrah66 :
Just got a 17k bump by looking for a new job. A boss of mine who was doing everything put her notice in and I went full abandoned ship mode because I feel that our other boss doesn’t know what he’s doing. I might not have started looking for another job for half year to a year if she didn’t quit. Almost feel like I should reach out to her and thank her, but I’m not sure lol.

notreallylucy :
Even if you're SURE you don't want to leave your current job, it's a good idea to browse job listings regularly. Keep track of how much demand for jobs there is in your field and how much people with similar experience get paid. It's a good idea to know what you're worth and what your prospects are.

MurderDoneRight :
And don't quit, look for a new job on company hours. It's not like the boss goes home at night and uses his own free time to look for employees to hire right?
The advice is good but the logic is flawed.
Stellar_atmospheres :
Needed to hear this. Although my situation is more that I should leave my commercial job and go to grad school to push my career more towards what I love. It’s hard to swallow leaving a salary to replace it with loans

par337 :
I wish. Went into business with my mother and father, and unfortunately far too important to leave.

WigWamWiggy :
This always sounds easier and rosier than it is in practice. I feel completely stagnant in my field and find no joy or fulfillment in the work I do, but 4 years out of college I was making a 6 figure salary where as other people at the top of my graduating class went and pursued their interests out of school and was almost immediately burnt out with the discipline we studied and changed fields. They basically started from zero and didn't make much use of the degree we got. Yeah I'm not crazy with what I do now, but if I were to completely change fields at this point I would probably take a huge pay cut and have to work up my skills from square one. The risk vs reward just isn't there for me. Steady pay, health insurance, and job security is nothing to scoff at before deciding to yeet your current career away, especially with the current state of affairs in the world. All markets are bearish right now but you never know when the next recession will hit (talking as a US citizen here). I guess what I'm saying is don't discount the blessings you currently have prior to making any rash decisions. The way I look at it, even though i don't enjoy what I'm doing, I've positioned myself to have a comfortable work/life balance and can find fulfillment outside of the work I do.

Firun82 :
This, absolutely. Also, do not think that you have to take a certain job or stay in a certain job because it is a "logical progression" from your previous position. [The Peter principle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle) applies on a personal level, too, I feel. Have a look around, evaluate what you really like and want to do, and then go for it. I've been there myself, too. I got myself into a job where I felt barely competent enough, had little of what I enjoyed in previous jobs and where I was deeply unhappy as a result. Don't be me - listen to yourself and scale back if appropriate. It's not worth your happiness and sanity.

AtlasClone :
LPT in your 20s and 30s don't buy anything that will make you overly dependant on your income source. Otherwise quitting becomes a lot more difficult and you end up tying yourself to your job.